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(0:00) Investors, welcome back to the channel.

(0:02) We have Wes Matthews from NEOS today.

(0:05) How are you doing, Wes?

(0:06) I'm great, Spencer.

(0:07) Thanks.

(0:08) There is a lot going on.

(0:10) And this is a video a lot of people are really, they want to know.

(0:16) They want to know what's happening with NEOS and this acquisition with Goldman Sachs.

(0:19) So if you could just start off first by giving us a little bit of your background, (0:23) your position at NEOS, and then we'll jump straight into the questions.

(0:26) Sure.

(0:27) Yeah, happy to.

(0:27) So yeah, Wes Matthews, I'm Senior Managing Director here at NEOS, (0:30) Head of Investment Strategy. (0:33) I've been in the, I'd say, derivatives-based ETF space for a little over a decade now.

(0:38) Prior to that, I was a derivatives trader as well and portfolio manager.

(0:41) So yeah, it's been amazing to be part of, I guess, (0:45) nascent as well as really quickly growing part of the marketplace. (0:49) And the growth has been wild, but we will definitely get into that.

(0:53) So the first question is, what did Goldman Sachs agree to acquire? (0:57) And what is the reason that NEOS agreed?

(1:01) Yeah. (1:01) So as you probably have read in the press release, as well as some of the information, (1:06) it's on our website as well, if you haven't seen it yet. (1:08) But we agreed to the acquisition by Goldman Sachs, asset management side, (1:14) that will be full acquisition of NEOS going forward, assuming the proxy goes through.

(1:18) You know, they will be similar to how, or sorry, (1:22) similar to how Innovator has been bought by Goldman in the past year. (1:26) I think that says now Innovator by or from Goldman Sachs asset management. (1:31) Probably be very similar here, where it'll be NEOS from Goldman Sachs asset management.

(1:35) Some of those details are still in process because this is so new. (1:38) But, you know, we're very excited about the partnership and the unified vision (1:43) our two firms have in continuing to grow the space. (1:46) It's a really, really exciting bit of news.

(1:49) And it's unique because, I mean, I've been in the ETF space for a long time. (1:52) I've never seen something like this happen, at least to this scale. (1:56) So it's very new for a lot of investors.

(1:58) And we just have so many questions. (2:00) But we'll just continue into it. (2:02) So when is the transaction expected to close? (2:05) Yeah, so we're targeting first quarter of 27.

(2:09) That's a target, obviously. (2:10) And really, that comes down to the proxy vote. (2:13) We need people to vote their shares.

(2:15) And the proxy vote has to go through for that to officially close. (2:18) But that's the goal at this point. (2:20) Excellent.

(2:20) And we will touch more on the proxy vote in further questions. (2:24) There's a lot of details that go into that. (2:26) And it is, again, a unique experience for a lot of the retail side.

(2:30) One big question is, why is Goldman Sachs buying an ETF issuer (2:34) instead of building these strategies in-house?

(2:37) Yeah, I think that's a great question. (2:39) And Goldman's been pretty open about this in some of their statements and press releases. (2:43) But they've had tremendous success building their own ETF lineup up to this point.

(2:48) But they're also very quick to acknowledge the space is growing quickly. (2:51) And there's firms like ours out there that have done things a little bit different (2:54) and grown in short order. (2:56) And it's a way to really fast-track their growth into the options-based space.

(3:00) They did the same thing with Innovator. (3:01) They saw value there. (3:03) They had some similar funds and acquired them.

(3:06) And they've done the same thing here with NEOS, (3:07) which is just fast-tracking their ability to grow into the space (3:10) and complete their lineup. (3:11) What will happen with the current lineup of NEOS ETFs?

(3:15) So the current lineup of the 19 funds we have now will continue. (3:19) We don't have any imminent plans to change anything from that standpoint.

(3:23) And in fact, we do plan to add to that. (3:26) We have a number of funds in registration, (3:27) as well as a couple more coming according to our product plan. (3:30) So things will be continuing as normal.

(3:32) You'll see more NEOS funds come to market, (3:34) hopefully in the next six months, I'd say, for sure, if not sooner. (3:39) And even beyond that, we plan to continue to accelerate that. (3:41) Especially with the help of Goldman behind us.

(3:44) That is great news. (3:45) And kind of going off that question, (3:47) will NEOS continue to launch funds under their own name?

(3:50) Yeah, that is the plan at this point. (3:52) Obviously, we still have to have the discussions with Goldman.

(3:55) But if you take Innovator as sort of a roadmap for how that was done before, (4:00) there's still funds coming out under Innovator, (4:02) saying Innovator from Goldman Sachs Asset Management. (4:05) I would assume that it'll be the same for us, (4:07) where it'll be a NEOS from Goldman Sachs Asset Management. (4:10) But again, that can all change down the road.

(4:12) But at this point, that's the plan. (4:15) And is the entire NEOS team joining? (4:18) I know it was mentioned in the Goldman Sachs (4:20) that Troy and Garrett will be. (4:21) Is it the entire team?

(4:23) It is, yeah.

(4:24) We had a meeting this morning about it. (4:25) They're excited for our whole team. (4:28) We're only 35 people at this point.

(4:30) So there aren't a ton of us, (4:32) but everyone is very excited to be part of this. (4:34) I know they're excited to bring everyone in house (4:37) and continue going forward and growing. (4:39) That's great news, great news.

(4:41) So if I already own a NEOS ETF, (4:44) does anything change for me either right away now (4:47) or when the acquisition goes through? (4:51) If it goes through, I should specify?

(4:53) Sure, yeah. (4:53) No, the plan at this point is to keep everything as it is. (4:56) You shouldn't see any major changes at all in the product lineup.

(5:01) Once the acquisition is completed (5:03) and the proxy vote goes through, assuming it goes through, (5:06) then you might see some of those branding changes (5:08) we talked about just in terms of NEOS (5:10) from Goldman Sachs, Asset Management. (5:13) But at that point, we'll be more closely working together hand in hand.

(5:18) Excellent.

(5:19) And Goldman is large. (5:20) We discussed this. (5:21) It's over, I think we said over $100 billion in AUM (5:24) for their ETFs alone.

(5:27) What new opportunities might NEOS have (5:29) once you guys have partnered with Goldman Sachs Asset Management?

(5:33) Yeah, I think we'll work very closely with them (5:36) as well as other firms they've acquired, (5:37) like Innovator to figure out (5:39) how do the products we currently have fit together? (5:42) What new products can we bring to the marketplace (5:44) that don't overlap with something that's already in the lineup?

(5:46) As you mentioned, they are already quite large (5:48) and will be significantly more after this. (5:52) So I think it's going to be working closely together (5:54) with their product team, the other product teams involved (5:57) and just figuring out what's next for us. (5:59) What's the next thing that completes the lineup, (6:01) not just our own lineup, (6:02) but the combined lineup of all these firms.

(6:06) Excellent. (6:06) One really important piece for, (6:08) this might be specific just to me. (6:10) A lot of people love the NEOS website, how it functions.

(6:14) Is that going to remain intact?

(6:16) For the foreseeable future, it'll stay the same as it is. (6:19) You can see if you go on there now, (6:21) there's an announcement. (6:22) We recorded a video, a couple updates.

(6:24) But at this point, it's going to be the same as it's been. (6:28) Again, that could change going forward as well. (6:30) But for now, the plan is to be the same.

(6:33) Excellent. (6:33) And I want to specify, (6:35) anyone looking for more answers or whatnot, (6:37) go check out that post on the NEOS website. (6:40) There's tons of good information.

(6:41) There's a phenomenal Q&A section (6:43) where they answer a lot of the questions (6:45) that we're discussing in this video, (6:46) but some they go a little more in depth (6:48) on certain topics and whatnot. (6:50) It's really, really helpful. (6:51) And it's the first place I went to (6:52) when I heard about the news.

(6:53) Goldman also has a release that has a lot of information. (6:55) So if you guys are looking for more info, (6:57) go check out the websites. (6:59) What about social medias? (7:01) Are those going to be staying the same? (7:02) I know the X account is fairly large (7:04) and investors utilize that for news and such.

(7:08) Yeah, I mean, for now, everything is the same. (7:10) We continue to create content, (7:12) like this video, for instance, (7:14) or the announcement video we made. (7:16) In conjunction with Goldman, (7:17) we continue to have these partnerships.

(7:19) The plan is to continue the website as well. (7:21) We'll be working closely with their team (7:23) and their own compliance and all that. (7:24) But at this point, nothing's changing, (7:27) nor do I know of any plans to necessarily change that.

(7:30) Great news. (7:31) Great news for sure. (7:32) We touched on Innovator a little bit.

(7:35) So Innovator, I believe it took place, (7:36) the acquisition was a little over a year ago, (7:38) sometime around there?

(7:40) Yeah, I believe it completed in April. (7:42) I think it was announced last fall, (7:44) but then the proxy vote and all that, (7:46) like we'll talk about, went through, (7:47) and that was completed in April.

(7:50) Excellent.

(7:50) And so how does the acquisition of NEOS (7:53) fit in with Innovator? (7:54) I would say, I haven't spoken about Innovator funds (7:57) on the channel, (7:57) but I'm sure people are going to be really curious (7:59) about what they offer as well.

(8:00) Yeah, so Innovator is another options-based ETF shop. (8:05) A lot of my background was actually spent (8:07) working on those products.

(8:09) I worked for the sub-advisor (8:10) who worked closely with Innovator before. (8:12) Those are essentially using the same kind of building blocks (8:15) we have here, (8:16) but putting them together for a different purpose, (8:18) more purposeful in terms of downside protection. (8:21) Now they do have some upside products as well, (8:23) but the core of what they do and have sold (8:25) is that buffer defined outcome type payoff structure (8:28) where you get exposure to markets (8:29) and you have a defined protection level to the downside.

(8:33) So it's a little bit more of a, (8:35) you know, left tail risk principle protection, (8:38) tilt versus income generation like we focus on. (8:41) Again, same building blocks, (8:42) but just put together for a different payoff profile.
(8:46) Excellent.

(8:46) And that's part of it. (8:47) There's a lot of funds (8:49) and when you really get into the details of them, (8:51) the functions are pretty different. (8:53) I just put out a video talking about (8:55) some of the Goldman funds (8:56) and there's some misconceptions about similarities, (8:59) but really it's interesting how (9:00) there's so many ETFs that all fit different purposes.

(9:04) I think that's very, very interesting. (9:06) And jumping into our next segment, (9:09) talking about Goldman (9:10) or continue to talk about Goldman, (9:11) why are banks like Goldman (9:12) expanding into the option-based income ETFs right now? (9:18) Yeah, I mean, Goldman, as we mentioned, (9:20) has had a tremendous success (9:22) in terms of growing their ETF business (9:23) under their asset management arm. (9:25) I'm going back quite a few years now.

(9:27) Their growth has been kind of outstanding (9:29) compared to a lot of peers. (9:30) And as we mentioned, (9:31) they've been interested in the space. (9:32) They've launched some buffered products.

(9:34) They've launched some income products (9:35) and then seeing the success, (9:37) seeing the feedback from investors and allocators (9:39) that they like this and want more of it. (9:41) And this was a way to accelerate that (9:43) and quickly jump in acquiring NEOS, (9:46) and acquiring Innovator, (9:47) bringing a whole bunch of products to that lineup (9:50) without having to go through the process (9:51) of launching that many funds, (9:53) educating, just short-circuiting that process (9:56) in many ways to quickly get to be a major player (10:00) in that part of the space. (10:02) Great, and a very important question.

(10:06) Do any of these funds between NEOS, (10:09) between Goldman and Innovator, (10:10) do they clash? (10:11) How is that going to look?

(10:14) I wouldn't say they clash. (10:15) I wouldn't use that. (10:16) I would say they are, if anything, (10:18) somewhat complementary of each other.

(10:19) We talked about Innovator (10:21) is more on the protective side of things. (10:23) We have some protective funds as well. (10:24) We've talked about SPI-H and QQH on the channel before.

(10:28) We're generating income there. (10:29) We'll give you some measure of protection (10:30) on the downside. (10:33) It's somewhat unique (10:34) because we're doing income and protection.

(10:36) Most of the Innovator funds are more focused (10:38) just on the protection element. (10:40) In terms of Goldman, (10:42) obviously they have some income funds (10:43) that we compete with historically. (10:45) There's differences there between those funds.

(10:47) Some are more income-heavy than others. (10:50) We have a little bit higher distribution rates (10:52) in some of their funds. (10:53) Theirs might be a little bit more focused on NAV growth.

(10:55) There's some differences there (10:57) that aren't necessarily competing. (11:00) They're different flavors of something (11:02) in the same vein, I would say. (11:04) I like that.

(11:05) I like the use of the term complementary (11:07) because that's what it is. (11:08) There's funds for everybody (11:10) depending on what you're looking for. (11:13) That's a really good breakdown.

(11:16) I think we touched on this a little bit. (11:18) The NEOS, having you guys come on the channel, (11:20) on other YouTube channels (11:21) and doing the education on your funds, (11:23) is that likely to continue (11:25) as we roll forward into the acquisition?

(11:28) Yeah, I think so. (11:29) Sorry, repeat that question.

(11:31) I'm thinking of something else.

(11:32) No, no problem at all. (11:35) With NEOS coming on different YouTube channels (11:37) with the education segment, (11:39) is that likely to continue (11:40) as we roll into the acquisition?

(11:43) We plan to, yes.

(11:44) I don't anticipate that looking too different. (11:48) Obviously, we're going to work closely (11:49) with Goldman and their team (11:50) to make sure that they're comfortable (11:51) with how we do things. (11:53) They are fully supportive of education.

(11:56) Education is a huge part of what we do, (11:57) as you all know, through things like this. (12:00) Goldman is very committed as well (12:01) to making sure that investors (12:03) and allocators are educated (12:04) in how things are done. (12:06) We plan to continue to work (12:07) very closely with them (12:08) as well as this community (12:09) to make sure people know (12:10) what they're investing in and getting into.

(12:13) Excellent. (12:14) That was a big question I was getting (12:15) in the private community, (12:17) again, on all the social medias. (12:18) Is NEOS going to keep (12:19) coming on the channel? (12:20) Because it is really useful for retail (12:22) to even just have follow-ups, (12:24) talking about the new funds (12:25) and giving us an understanding.

(12:26) I mean, I've been really appreciative of it. (12:29) And NEOS was, (12:29) you guys were some of the first (12:30) to really push and do that. (12:32) And I think that has had a big impact on, (12:35) you know, the community (12:35) just wants to hear from you guys more.

(12:37) We love it, honestly. (12:39) I love it, of course. (12:41) What did the Goldman CEO say (12:43) about the strategic rationale (12:44) for the acquisition of NEOS? (12:47) Yeah, so David did post publicly.

(12:49) He was excited about the acquisition. (12:51) I actually pulled it up (12:52) so I don't misquote him. (12:53) But yeah, he said, (12:54) you know, NEOS' disciplined (12:55) investment approach (12:56) is highly complementary (12:57) to our capabilities across buffer, (12:59) managed outcome and income strategies.

(13:01) So I think, you know, (13:03) from my own perspective (13:04) and the team's perspective, (13:05) it's an exciting vote of confidence (13:07) to hear that from David directly (13:09) and the rest of the team over there, (13:10) that they love what we do. (13:12) They love how we do it. (13:13) And they love the same vision we have (13:15) in terms of educating (13:16) and continuing to grow the space.

(13:19) That's really important, I think. (13:22) And I think that, you know, (13:24) NEOS, you guys have built up (13:25) a very solid reputation. (13:26) I will say that from my comments, (13:28) from videos that I put out.

(13:30) You guys are one of the most talked about (13:32) issuers on my channel. (13:33) And that was one thing (13:34) I know a lot of people (13:35) were worried about (13:35) who aren't as familiar. (13:37) It's not a knock on Goldman whatsoever, (13:39) but you guys have built up this lineup (13:41) and this trust within the community.

(13:43) And you never know (13:43) what happens with acquisitions (13:45) or what could happen, I should say. (13:47) So that was really important. (13:48) And I was glad (13:48) that he put out that statement, (13:50) just kind of reassuring.

(13:51) Like, you know, they've, (13:52) they're acquiring NEOS for a reason. (13:54) And I think a lot of the retail (13:56) was happy to hear that as well. (13:58) So this, we're going to get (13:59) into some of the details (14:00) of the deal itself, (14:02) which is probably going to be new (14:03) for a lot of the retail side, (14:04) myself included.

(14:06) What regulatory steps need to happen (14:09) before the deal is finalized? (14:11) Yeah, so obviously (14:12) the announcement's been made publicly. (14:15) Which is important (14:16) for that to be public info (14:17) before anything is disclosed, (14:19) especially as they're (14:20) a publicly traded company. (14:21) Now, the next step is a proxy process.

(14:24) So you'll hear from us. (14:26) I mean, we'll put out (14:26) some information and resources (14:27) as much as we're able to (14:28) to explain how that works to folks. (14:30) But at some point, (14:31) you should expect (14:32) if you're a shareholder (14:33) to hear from a third party group (14:35) that we work with (14:36) to help facilitate that proxy vote.

(14:38) And it's basically reach out to say (14:40) you're a shareholder. (14:42) You own some shares. (14:43) Do you, you know, (14:44) how do you want to vote in this matter (14:45) in terms of approving the deal (14:47) to go through or not? (14:49) And so that's the important process (14:51) to make sure that (14:51) that the acquisition is completed.

(14:55) And so this proxy vote, (14:56) because I get, I'll be honest, (14:58) I get a lot of mail (14:58) from all the different issuers. (15:01) I barely read it. (15:02) Sometimes I get these thick packets (15:04) and I just, (15:05) especially at the position (15:06) small in my portfolio, (15:07) I'm not going to go through (15:08) all the nitty gritty details.

(15:09) So the proxy vote, (15:11) is that going to be specifically (15:12) on just the acquisition itself (15:14) or will it be like ETF dependent (15:16) on the transferring of assets or ETFs, (15:19) something along those lines?

(15:20) Yeah, it's relative to your specific (15:22) ownership of your shares. (15:24) So in my own account, (15:25) I own other shares (15:26) of other companies as well. (15:27) And occasionally there's a proxy vote (15:29) for those particular shares that I own.

(15:31) Same is true here. (15:32) Like it'll be specific to the shares (15:33) you actually own, (15:34) not just the overall deal. (15:36) And so accordingly, (15:38) you mentioned getting big packets of mail.

(15:40) Like we're working with a firm (15:42) that's very good at this. (15:44) And we also want to be (15:45) as tech savvy as we can be (15:47) in this process, (15:48) make it as easy for folks as we can. (15:49) And so we're working with a group (15:52) that's going to make this (15:53) hopefully as easy as possible for people.

(15:55) I know I own some shares (15:57) of another acquisition (15:58) and it was really easy for me. (16:00) So I'm hoping that's the same here. (16:01) It was just click, click, click.

(16:03) And it's great. (16:04) That will be much better (16:06) than having to recycle (16:06) 200 sheets of paper. (16:09) And so the proxy vote, (16:11) do we have a timeline on that? (16:13) Will it happen sooner (16:14) or will it be closer (16:14) to the actual finalization of the deal?

(16:17) The process will start fairly soon.

(16:19) I don't have the exact date (16:20) of when it'll start, (16:20) but it does start soon (16:21) because it takes a while (16:22) to reach out and connect with everybody (16:24) or the majority of everybody (16:26) who's out there that does own shares. (16:28) So very cool. (16:29) That's yeah, that's important.

(16:30) Because I was just curious. (16:31) I'm like, when does that (16:31) actually take place? (16:34) Can you touch on some of the pros (16:36) that will come along (16:38) with being acquired by (16:39) such a large asset (16:40) management company like Goldman? (16:42) I mean, even expanding (16:43) further than what we've (16:44) talked about before.

(16:46) Sure.

(16:46) Yeah. (16:47) I mean, it's a lot of the basic things (16:48) that you'd expect. (16:49) Again, very small firm (16:51) joining with a very large firm (16:53) while still remaining intact (16:54) within that acquiring firm.

(16:56) And so for us, it's exciting (16:58) because as you build a firm up, (16:59) you know, you get to a scale (17:01) where you're very large (17:02) and you're having to build out (17:04) whole departments and teams (17:05) and operations to try to keep up (17:07) with that rapid growth. (17:08) This is a way for us to quickly (17:10) have all that immediately (17:12) from an amazing partner like Goldman, (17:14) who's been doing this for decades. (17:16) And so it's an easy jump (17:17) for us on an operational standpoint, (17:19) education standpoint, (17:20) resources standpoint, (17:22) outreach standpoint.

(17:23) Like I mentioned earlier, (17:24) they're operating in 30 countries. (17:26) I think that's going to give us (17:27) a lot of opportunities (17:28) that we don't currently have as well. (17:30) Product development.

(17:31) I know they're super excited (17:32) to work with us (17:33) and the investment team here (17:34) to continue to build (17:35) new products and ideas. (17:37) You know, and they have access (17:38) to things we don't and vice versa. (17:40) And the way we run our businesses (17:41) and bringing those together (17:42) just opens a ton more doors (17:44) for both parties.

(17:46) Yeah, that's a really good answer. (17:47) That's one thing (17:47) I'm really excited for. (17:49) I'm always excited (17:49) about the future of ETFs, (17:51) but I'm really curious (17:52) how the acquisition, (17:53) you know, impacts everything.

(17:55) And it'll just be great. (17:56) I love making videos on it, of course. (17:57) So it'll give additional content, (17:59) which is always great.

(18:01) One part of the deal (18:02) that I think is really important (18:03) is it said that it's (18:05) tied to performance (18:07) and retention targets. (18:09) Can you give us an idea (18:10) of what that means?

(18:11) Sure. Yeah.

(18:12) I mean, some of those details (18:13) aren't necessarily public, (18:14) but the gist there (18:16) is that there are incentives (18:17) to keep everybody aligned (18:18) on a go forward basis. (18:20) And this may answer (18:21) some of your other questions (18:22) in terms of, you know, (18:23) are people staying around? (18:24) Are they going away? (18:26) You know, Goldman wants everybody here (18:27) to be involved in the next phase. (18:29) And so a lot of that is around (18:31) how do you keep people engaged (18:32) and involved and motivated to grow?

(18:34) And that is our goal.

(18:35) That's their goal, obviously, as well. (18:37) And so a lot of the details (18:40) of that are motivated (18:41) by continuing to grow together (18:42) going forward. (18:44) I love that.

(18:45) I love that. (18:45) Our last question (18:47) is very, very important (18:49) to me specifically, (18:51) as well as to retail (18:52) with the growth of ETFs. (18:54) So ETFs are growing in popularity (18:56) very rapidly.

(18:57) We can even touch on NEOS’ numbers. (18:59) You guys were founded in 2022 (19:02) and you've amassed, (19:03) I think we said, $33 billion in AUM. (19:05) Is that correct, Wes?

(19:06) Yeah, we just crossed $33 this week.

(19:08) Yes. (19:09) Just crossed $33 billion, (19:10) which is, that's amazing. (19:13) And we're seeing a lot of growth, (19:15) especially in the income generation side.

(19:17) What does this merger show (19:19) about just the future (19:21) of income ETF investing?

(19:24) A few things, I would say. (19:26) One is that, you know, (19:28) income investing is (19:30) very attractive, obviously. (19:31) We've seen rapid growth.

(19:32) We've seen a number (19:33) of competitors come to market. (19:34) We've seen Goldman (19:34) also be in the space. (19:37) It's confirmed that it's (19:38) something that people want (19:40) and is probably going to continue (19:41) to be something that's desirable (19:42) as people try to plan (19:43) for income needs, (19:45) retirement needs, et cetera.

(19:47) I think the bigger takeaway is also (19:50) there's always room for innovation. (19:53) When you look at the ETF space, (19:55) you feel like, (19:56) it kind of feels like we've exhausted (19:57) most of what there is out there. (19:58) But then you see new structures (20:00) and new spaces come to market, (20:02) especially like this.

(20:03) Income is not brand new, (20:05) but doing it in the way (20:06) we've been able to do it (20:07) is a novel concept. (20:08) And so there will always be innovation (20:11) and there will always be (20:12) assets and allocators (20:14) looking for what's new and novel (20:15) and makes sense for them (20:16) on a go-forward basis. (20:17) And so I think it's really interesting.

(20:19) I know in their press release, (20:20) they said, you know, (20:21) this is the next step for us. (20:23) I don't know what that means (20:24) for them in the future, (20:25) but it seemed open-ended as well. (20:27) And so I do think the space (20:29) is going to continue to grow and evolve.

(20:32) Yeah, really excited about it.

(20:34) That's excellent. (20:35) It sounds like they're, (20:36) in a way, (20:36) betting on the income side growing (20:38) because in Innovator, (20:39) they're all income funds as well.

(20:40) Do they have any growth? (20:42) Innovator is not really (20:43) income funds predominantly. (20:44) They have some income funds, (20:45) but they're mostly protective funds. (20:47) They're defined outcome.

(20:49) They're more principle protection focused (20:50) as opposed to income, (20:52) where that's really (20:52) what we bring to the table (20:53) from a focus standpoint. (20:56) Excellent. (20:57) So moving forward, (20:59) what should investors be waiting for? (21:01) Is it just going to be that proxy vote (21:03) being the next step?

(21:05) Yeah, that would be the next step (21:06) is you'll probably hear from us, (21:08) either on the website (21:09) or through a third party (21:11) or through Goldman Sachs as well.

(21:13) I mean, they're going to be working (21:13) on this closely with us also. (21:15) So you'll hear from one of us (21:16) in terms of what the next steps (21:18) will be probably shortly.

(21:20) Great.

And the website, (21:21) the best place to go to for information, (21:23) the press releases (21:24) and things of that sort? (21:25) Yeah, anything in the interim (21:26) that's available, (21:27) we'll try to keep up to date (21:28) on the website. (21:29) We have a whole page (21:30) on the press release. (21:31) The news, FAQs, the video, (21:33) as soon as the proxy (21:34) information is available, (21:35) that'll be on there as well.

(21:37) Excellent. (21:37) And there's a NEOS podcast as well. (21:40) Is that correct? (21:40) We do.

Yeah. (21:41) We publish a podcast every month. (21:44) Tom Lydon usually helps out with that.

(21:46) And yeah, we'll keep people up (21:48) to date through that as well. (21:50) Excellent. Well, I want to say (21:50) thank you so much, Wes, (21:51) for coming on the channel.

(21:52) I know you guys are probably (21:54) as busy as ever (21:55) with everything going on. (21:56) And I really appreciate you (21:57) taking the time to fill us in (21:59) on what's happening, (21:59) on what this means. (22:00) And with everything, it's a lot.

(22:03) We really do appreciate having you on.

(22:05) Thanks, Spencer. (22:05) I appreciate the support.

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